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Reloading .303 British : Milsurp Ammo

June 17, 2013, 10:52 pm
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Author: Shamu
Subject: Milsurp Ammo
Posted: 18 June 2013 at 5:52am

It depends on storage conditions a lot.
I've had "adventures" with some old ammo, but I've also had perfectly good performance from others. If you're going to use surpluss then you really need to get savvy on headstamps as they'll tell you a lot about expected performance.
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Reloading .303 British : S&B brass

June 18, 2013, 2:26 am
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Author: SW28fan
Subject: S&B brass
Posted: 18 June 2013 at 9:26am

Leee has had some quality control issues of late I have to send a set back because they were undersized
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Reloading .303 British : S&B brass

June 18, 2013, 6:39 am
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Author: Praetorian
Subject: S&B brass
Posted: 18 June 2013 at 1:39pm

I have a lot of S&B brass, and it is weaker than a lot of other brass out there. I have a lot of it for .303 and 7.62x54R. The 54R I get about 5 reloads, full size, before it cracks.

Do you think your cases need to be trimmed? I just got neck sizing dies, so maybe this will make them last longer. If you can, get Privi Partizan brass, I find that it is the best. I have some cases from 1986 that I have used dozens of times.
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Reloading .303 British : Accurate Powder

June 28, 2013, 11:46 am
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Author: SW28fan
Subject: Accurate Powder
Posted: 28 June 2013 at 6:46pm

I just bought 4 pounds of Accurate 2700 powder. I do have loading data for it but have never used it. Anyone have any experience with it? I also got a pound of Ramshot Big Game powder another mystery. 
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Reloading .303 British : Accurate Powder

July 6, 2013, 2:12 am
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Author: SW28fan
Subject: Accurate Powder
Posted: 06 July 2013 at 9:12am

I tried 42 grains of 2700 behind a Sierra 180 grain Soft point and got results comperable to what I get with Varget at 100 yards.
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Reloading .303 British : smudges on the side of the brass

July 14, 2013, 1:00 am
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Author: manseroad
Subject: smudges on the side of the brass
Posted: 14 July 2013 at 8:00am

Hi folks
Can you tell me why in my new 12/54 mark 4 # 2 that I am experiencing black smudge's down the sides of say every 6 to 7 rounds . WW brass no hot loads, neck sized doesn't matter if its 174 grain or 150 grain. The brass has been trimmed once
Thanks
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Reloading .303 British : poor quality

July 14, 2013, 1:06 am
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Author: manseroad
Subject: poor quality
Posted: 14 July 2013 at 8:06am

Hi folks I have heard by two gunsmiths that 12/54 Enfield's were of poor quality and that they had a single twist which effects accuracy . Is this true? I have had a heck of a time finding one load that is consistent. appreciate your input.
Ed
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Reloading .303 British : poor quality

July 14, 2013, 7:03 am
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Author: Longshaor
Subject: poor quality
Posted: 14 July 2013 at 2:03pm

By 12/54 are you referring to the production date?
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Reloading .303 British : poor quality

July 14, 2013, 7:25 pm
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Author: muffett.2008
Subject: poor quality
Posted: 15 July 2013 at 2:25am

That is incorrect, if they were inaccurate, they would not have been produced.
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Reloading .303 British : poor quality

July 14, 2013, 10:16 pm
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Author: Shamu
Subject: poor quality
Posted: 15 July 2013 at 5:16am

What is a "single twist"?
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Reloading .303 British : poor quality

July 14, 2013, 10:20 pm
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Author: SW28fan
Subject: poor quality
Posted: 15 July 2013 at 5:20am

Never heard of a single twist either.  I suspect that some guy had a 12/54 dated Faz with a loose king screw that shot bad and the local "Hot Stove League" came up with a theory that 12/54 are bad and it got disseminated in a local area.
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Reloading .303 British : poor quality

July 15, 2013, 12:22 am
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Author: manseroad
Subject: poor quality
Posted: 15 July 2013 at 7:22am

Hi I don't get it either . Wouldn't a military rifle made in peace time be of even better quality ? As far as single twist is concerned I'm stumped .I understand rate of twist but not this single twist business.
Well thanks for the input folks . I guess I'll just ... soldier on.
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Reloading .303 British : poor quality

July 15, 2013, 2:03 am
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Author: Shamu
Subject: poor quality
Posted: 15 July 2013 at 9:03am

I suspect a little "Shade tree smiffin' wisdom" has crept in somehow. I have a 3/55 Faz & its hands down the best Lee Enfield I've ever owned.
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Reloading .303 British : poor quality

July 15, 2013, 3:03 am
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Author: paddyofurniture
Subject: poor quality
Posted: 15 July 2013 at 10:03am

I have never had a issue with an Enfield rifle with staying on target. Just my old blue eyes do not see as well as they used to.

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Reloading .303 British : poor quality

July 15, 2013, 4:47 am
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Author: LE Owner
Subject: poor quality
Posted: 15 July 2013 at 11:47am

Well the Lee Enfields and the Springfield rifle have 1:10" twist originally intended for bullets weighin circa 220 gr +/-.
The MkVII bullet while a great deal lighter has the length and profile of a much heavier bullet so it works great in the 1:10 Twist. The 30-06 150 gr bullets work fine in a 1:10 twist but they went to 1:12 or 1:14 for best accuracy of the 7.62 NATO which mimics the original 150 gr .30-06 Ball cartridge.

The main problem handloaders have with the .303 is finding a modern manufacture bullet suited to oversized bores, which most .303 barrels have.
The Hornady .312 flat base bullets were designed for the 7.7 Jap rifle and these work great in every .303 rifle I've loaded for regardless of major diameter differences.

PS
Cut rifling is sometimes refered to as "single point rifling" so that may be what was meant. Some don't want to believe that cut rifling can be better than button rifling.
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Reloading .303 British : poor quality

July 15, 2013, 5:29 am
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Author: paddyofurniture
Subject: poor quality
Posted: 15 July 2013 at 12:29pm

LE Owner,

Thank you for the info on the 0.312 bullets.

I will give it a try.

Ed

Originally posted by LE Owner LE Owner wrote:

Well the Lee Enfields and the Springfield rifle have 1:10" twist originally intended for bullets weighin circa 220 gr +/-.
The MkVII bullet while a great deal lighter has the length and profile of a much heavier bullet so it works great in the 1:10 Twist. The 30-06 150 gr bullets work fine in a 1:10 twist but they went to 1:12 or 1:14 for best accuracy of the 7.62 NATO which mimics the original 150 gr .30-06 Ball cartridge.

The main problem handloaders have with the .303 is finding a modern manufacture bullet suited to oversized bores, which most .303 barrels have.
The Hornady .312 flat base bullets were designed for the 7.7 Jap rifle and these work great in every .303 rifle I've loaded for regardless of major diameter differences.

PS
Cut rifling is sometimes refered to as "single point rifling" so that may be what was meant. Some don't want to believe that cut rifling can be better than button rifling.
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Reloading .303 British : H380 powder??

July 16, 2013, 2:21 am
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Author: mrbungle
Subject: H380 powder??
Posted: 16 July 2013 at 9:21am

anybody got the numbers for reloading 303 174 grain match with H380?? 
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Reloading .303 British : H380 powder??

July 16, 2013, 8:13 am
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Author: mrbungle
Subject: H380 powder??
Posted: 16 July 2013 at 3:13pm

found it is 43.9 max load so i loaded some with 43.0 and 42.5 of the h380
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Reloading .303 British : smudges on the side of the brass

July 20, 2013, 8:33 am
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Author: LE Owner
Subject: smudges on the side of the brass
Posted: 20 July 2013 at 3:33pm

If the brass is stiff or thick a medium pressure load may not expand the neck enough to fully seal in the chamber. Neck sizing work hardens brass.

Annealing the necks may help.

Also if there's a lot of carbon fouling build up in the chamber neck it might prevent a metal to metal seal. If that's the case the fouling build up will get worse, and may soon constrict the neck causing excessive pressure.
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Reloading .303 British : smudges on the side of the brass

July 20, 2013, 10:30 am
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Author: gwpercle
Subject: smudges on the side of the brass
Posted: 20 July 2013 at 5:30pm

Bump your powder charge up just a bit to see if the increased pressure seals the neck.   I was getting smudges with some cast bullet loads with 41 magnum brass.   I didn't want higher pressure/velocity loads so I annealed ( softened) the portion of the case where the bullet is seated and it solved the problem.   I keep these cases seperate for low velocity cast bullets only and don't load them with magnum velocity loadings.    If you don't want to increase your powder charge , anneal the necks and reserve them for low velocity loadings.
 
Gary
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